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fionatrue -

10 minutes WALK from Guomao (World Trade Center) subway 1 br in CBD Chaoyang for only 1800/br (225
dollars or 180 euros)

Want to be close to the CBD, Guomao subway in Chaoyang District? My flat mate is leaving on the
9th of JULY so you can take his room.

The apartment is on the 15th floor in a high rise that is just 10 minutes walk from Guomao subway.
It’s located to the north of World Trade Center, east of Fortune Plaza and Jingguang Center on
Chaoyang Road. Your room is facing south with a balcony. The apartment is well furnished. You have
brand new carpet, air-conditioner in your room and brand new refrigerator, microwave, vacuum
cleaner for us to share in the living room. Pictures see:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mayzfi...?.dir=/1517scd

The apartment is 3 minutes walk from the Library & Cultural Center of Chaoyang District, where you
can borrow books for only 10 yuan for 2 years or watch movies; there are supermarkets, McDonalds,
vegetable stand, drug store, bus stops close by. It is very close to Tuanjiehu (10 minutes walk)
and Chaoyang Park (10 minutes by bus).

You share this apartment with me, a Chinese girl, Msc in Business. I am 30 years old, studied in
Europe and now work in CBD.

Rent: if two people, then 1900 Yuan;
If one person, then 1800 Yuan.

SHORT TERM IS OK!!
Rent is Negotiable.

Contact Maybelle at MSN: rabbitmayz@hotmail.com
Or call me at 010-65309300-601 (work)
13683171000/ 86225195

Come and have a look at the apartment after 6 pm in week days or during the weekend.



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blee3939 -

I'm a Chinese boy, 23, youngest of 3. I know what you're feeling. My oldest brother married a
Chinese woman 5 years older than him (a huge no-no in our culture). But he told them about their
relationship when they were in too deep. My sister, she married a white guy. But they were in
school together, so it was hard for my parents to keep watch. And that leaves me. I am living at
home to save money so I will have some savings before I move out. My parents are very traditional,
but want happiness for me and my siblings. Which is why they don't openly go against my sister and
brother. But since I am the last hope for them, I feel a lot of pressure. I was dating a really
good friend of mine. I was close friends with her for 4+ years, and started dating in February.
The big problem was that she was a mulatto (black and white). In my culture, it might be the worst
thing, well at least to my parents. That kills me. I am so open minded and accepting of all races,
yet my parents, of whom I love dearly, are so against it. I know it is their culture and whatnot,
but who says culture is a good thing if it is wrong? I feel so bad about it, and that we had to
end on those terms. Our relationship was amazing, even though she lived about an hour and a half
away. We'd talk on the weeknights and hang out on the weekends. Every second we spent together was
amazing. Now I am left to wondering for the rest of my life if I made the right decision. Only if
I could see it through until the end, maybe things wouldn't have worked out. It proved to be too
hard to turn my back on my parents, who sacrificed a lot to move to the US and support me and my
siblings. I'm just so torn about the whole situation. But what's done is done right? Just have to
move on. The culture is there, chinese children are usually very obedient. But to the white folks,
it is very prevalent these days for whites to date asians. So keep up hope.



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anthony_barker -

Wife's parents didn't want us to get married - still did. They refused to talk to us - until their
grandchild came along.

Now they've forgotten about me and focus on my daughter. Everything is somewhat better (on the
surface at least).










adrianlondon -

My partner's parents know of me (in that I've been to Taipei twice and stayed over at their place
for a few days) but they don't know I've been in a relationship with their son for the last 4
years. We both live in London.

I think the issue isn't that I'm white, but that I'm a bloke

My family are fine; and I think his are fine in a "we're aware what's going on, just don't talk
about it" kind of way. It's all about saving face with the neighbours over there










billiardsmike -

Adrian,

Many years in Atlanta (the San Fransisco of the southern US) have taught me that most Asian
cultures have a more difficult time accepting gays than most western cultures (Latin America being
an exception). I've had several gay friends who found this to be a major stumbling block. You may
have to accept it and move on.










adrianlondon -

I have accepted it; it seems to work fine for all concerned. A sort of "don't ask don't tell"
policy, based on the US military :-)










Incubus -

hi all, ive been searching the net for help and advice on chinese culture. you see my girlfriend
is chinese. she moved to adelaide 4 months ago and we have been dating since.
i find her such a beautiful person , that treats me in a way i could only dream about before.
previous dating attrempts had always failed and to be hoenst ive not had any luck with western
girls and their western attitudes. i met cindy and my life turned around.

im 37 and a single father of a 9 year old boy, she has so far accepted this.i cannot describe in
words how i feel about her or how she treats me is so differant to western girls. all i know is i
love her culture and have tried to adpot as much of it as possible and have gotten rid of the
typiucal beer and bbq aussie culture. i want to learn so much about chinese culture and to be if
possible to be a little chinese in the way i am as a person.

she is 31 and has had a couple of boyfriends, she cannot had children due to a blockage ro some
other medical term. she came here as a nurse and is at uni gettin her accreditaion. she has stated
she wants to have children and have actually been trying and was talking about IVF as well soon as
she got a job,also she wanted to get a car and house to live in , the family dream for me was
becoming a reality since we met we have both really be taken by each other. especialy me , of
which i promptly fell in love with her (mistake no.1).


well after 4 months of the best times of my life the bubble was burst.
she started telling me over msn chat as we dont live together, that she is very unhappy and
frustrated. i will show what she wrote as i am so uspet at the moment, i did not sleep well last
night and have not gone to work today. im so depressed that what i thought of a wonderfull future
we could have was ripped away from me




Quote:

you don't have much idea about my feeling. I'm struggling all the time. i'm not sure where to go
in the future( I mean whether i will go back china). the differences in culture and many ways
always confuse me and make me not comfortable.also I'm not sure if i'm interested in family life.
I have been used to live alone and freely and do what i want to doCultural differences, i mean not
only eating lifestlye, but also the way you thinking whick is more important




Quote:

i got Chinese thinking, you got Australia thinking. For example, when some dispute happened
between two lovers. in our culture the guy always should coax or console or make consessions to
the girl even the girl is wrong.
8/30/2006 11:19:15 PM 西子湖畔 Incubus it is really hard to explain such things
8/30/2006 11:21:06 PM 西子湖畔 Incubus also we got different attitudes about working, how to
lead a life, and so on
8/30/2006 11:21:52 PM 西子湖畔 Incubus i think my explanation is not enough and not strong as
i think


i dont know why im posting this , im just looking for help i suppose or advice on what these
cultural diffances are
what am i doing wrong as a aussie that a chinese man does not do wrong?

please help










HashiriKata -



Quote:


Originally Posted by her

you don't have much idea about my feeling. I'm struggling all the time.


It sounds like she's trying to tell you something (perhaps your way of dealing with her / not
understanding her ?)










Lu -

I don't know your GF and I don't know you, and am neither Chinese nor Australian, but I'll try to
shed some light on it.


Quote:

she started telling me over msn chat as we dont live together, that she is very unhappy and
frustrated.

Is this the main issue, or just one of the problems? It might be that she feels she's getting
nowhere with you. By Chinese standards, she's an old maid, plus she can't have children. It could
be that she very much wants to get married (and have a baby) and that she feels you're not willing
to marry her. You haven't popped the question yet (possibly because you feel 4 months is too short
to get engaged), but she maybe wants to know for sure that she's not wasting her time with you,
and that you're not just another foreigner who plays around with a Chinese girl only to dump her
shortly afterwards.



Quote:

For example, when some dispute happened between two lovers. in our culture the guy always should
coax or console or make consessions to the girl even the girl is wrong.

Not sure if this is really always the case with Chinese boys, but it'd definately help if you'd
coax/console her, tell her how much she means to you, etc etc.

And some general relationship advice:
- in intercultural relationships, it's really important to realize that there are differences, and
to talk about it. Also, trust is very important. If she does something that upsets you, you have
to be able to be sure that she didn't mean to upset you but that she loves you and it's a cultural
thing. Then tell her what she did, why that upset you, ask her why she did that, talk it over
until you understand each other.
- do not have difficult conversations late at night, when you're both tired.
- do not go to sleep before making up.

Lastly: surely you're going to do a lot of things wrong that Chinese men don't do wrong. But the
things you'll do right that Chinese boys don't do right will in all likelihood be more.
You are not the first Australian man with a Chinese GF, and also not the last. Many Ch-Au couples
have gotten married and lived long and happily ever after, so it's not something impossilble that
you're trying.

Good luck!










KIWIBOY -

I feel what you are going through. I went through it for 2 years and never popped the question, I
wasn't playing with her - loved her very much but her family would not meet me and she always put
her father in front of me. Looking back on it, we were living together for some 6-9 months and in
my culture that is a fairly short period before you pop the question, especially with family
issues in the way. It could not get resolved at all and after her arguing with her father on the
phone she packed her bags and went back to China, me not really understanding why and heartbroken.

Looking back on it now, she wanted committment sooner than I was prepared to give it to her. I
love her dearly but I could not marry her with the problems we had. If its going to be over, it
better be sooner rather than later because after 6 months I am only just coming out of the swamp
and we have no communication at all. I have several other friends that have similar experiences.
My GF did not want to look after children, she wanted her parents to but they are in China, she
wanted a fantastic career, she wanted to live in NZ but then didn't, she said she could always
find another husband not another father, the list went on - too much for any guy. In retrospect if
I had popped the question 1 year ago we would have been married today but it was just too much
risk for me and I was prepared for a broken heart rather than a lifetime of confusion and regrets
that I would also have inflicted on my children - I don't care about my feelings now, just the
feelings of any children. She doesn't think the same and holds herself as a victim of
circumstances out of my control and blames me - understandable but she new her culture better than
I did and had also been immersed in Kiwi culture for 5 years. My first thought is that she wants
to marry you and in their culture its a way of telling you. You are in a relatively easy position
compared with me, because at least her family is not against you. If you love her and want to be
with her, don't worry about what she is saying at the moment, pretty sure she wants to marry you
mate.










Incubus -

thank you for your reply, i really appreciate it.

firstly i would marry this girl in a heart beat but i am so unaware of how she feels about me as
she doesnt tell me, but i do love this girl dearly and would be so happy to be married to her.

i try to console her always. i tell here very time i see her how beautiful she is to me and how
importnant she is. i am a very emotional person and am not afraid to show my feelings. i am very
affectionate with her and to the point i cant think straight.
i would do anything for this girl. i even said to her, if you go back to china im coming too , i
dont want to loose you for anything.

as for the suggestions about talking about issues that is a very good idea and i like the points
you made . thank you i will try to put them into practice..


unfortunatley nothing has changed she was on msn last night but did not tak to me much. in fact
her usual affectionate self was present . which indeed made me very sad. i still dont know what to
do.

her constantly telling me the cultural differances are to great, our way of thinking about
everything is too hard for her. especialy in a relationship. now when i ask her to explain she
cannot.

please can somoene tell me what the cultural differances in a relationship is. i hope there is a
aussie/chineses couple out there that maybe able to help me. i am desperate .












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horas -

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It would cost yourself $300, you got one laptop, the other two are donated to the poor children.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/pete/se...7594143224765/


http://www.laptop.org/faq.en_US.html


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HashiriKata -

Let's give the third world a taste of what they need from us!

Let's teach them/ force them to need what they don't need!

Let's make them feel totally inadequate, and eventually they'll sell their souls and bodies to us
for more of our discarded junk!

$100 a laptop, and this is only the beginning!

$100 a laptop for the third world, and this is the only alternative!

(And we don't want to know any other alternatives!!!)










Lugubert -

Satire is very difficult.

Great job though, HashiriKata!

I would prefer to donate to for example a well drilling project to supply a Bangladeshi village
with arsenic free water.

To reverse the thinking, the main lesson I got when studying Hindi in India for a month was that
it is possible to live without much of the complicated and expensive modern technology and still
be happy, well-fed, etc.

OTOH, there are hi-tech things that do add to the possibilities of rural and/or unprevilegied
people. Owning a cellphone will allow even small scale growers to find a better price than when
relying on some village monopolist buyer, learning to use cheap computers may give kids better
opportunities for more education etc.










Lu -

Opening an internetcafe is a better idea, I think. A laptop is only used by one person, and not
all the time. Put the laptop (or computer) in a bar and hire it out, and many more people can
profit from it.










libertango -

from what i remember, those laptops were meant to replace textbooks... so in that way, they would
save poor families alot of money.










Lu -

Not really. $100 can buy a lot of textbooks, especially in developing countries, were prices are
lower.
$100, that's about Y800, you can buy textbooks for an entire (small) Chinese school for that.










Lugubert -

I'll try to find the video, despite its being mainly in Swedish, but anyway there seems to be in
India a project providing Internet access through what looks rather like phone booths (but free!),
where kids (as well as adults) can connect to and use the 'net using a full keyboard and looking
at a perfectly normal monitor.












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Zhao Hanqing -

Fang in Jia Fang Side A, Yi Fang Side B, nanfang bridegroom or bridegroom's side, jiangfang the
police, xiaofang the school or univeristy authorities, zifang management.
方，甲方，乙方，男方，警方，校方，资方



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数理化: to mathematicize and to physicsize










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neng power energy, in taiyangneng solar energy, direneng geothermal energy, huaxueneng chemical
energy,jixieneng mechanical energy, fengneng wind power etc.
能，太阳能， 地热能，化学能，机械能， 风能










jukebox -



Quote:

数理化: to mathematicize and to physicsize

You must be kidding.










melop -

hahaha, 数理化 actually means maths, physics and chemistry.
Before English became an important subject in China, the 3 subject above is thought to be the most
important subjects for students.

My teacher used to tell us "学好数理化，走遍天下都不怕"。哈哈哈。










YangDizi -

Following on from the previous examples of the use of 化 as a suffix：

信息化

The translation into English which government agencies use is "informatise/informatisation" - not
only are they inventing words in Chinese, they are also doing the same in English! (I know the
word "informatisation" exists in French).












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Quote:

I have to disagree with self-taught-mba, whose very name implies a certain degree of pomposity
(had to say it, I think that every time I read it lol),

Thank you for your honesty. I have often regretted naming myself that. However, it is the most
descriptive way to describe myself and is not meant to be arrogant at all. I am after all
self-taught and an MBA. Being self-taught is nothing special-believe me, I'm not trying to make
myself out to be a hero or anything. If you read my story about how I learned you realize that it
was forced upon me because the system failed me.

Like I said before being self-taught is totally within the realm of possibility to get to a basic
level. The biggest problem I have is with the attitude the "Chinese must be hard." That is
absolutely ridiculous but a common misbelief. Note how no one is lauding his English skills! As if
somehow Chinese were more difficult than English!!!! This is a very American point of view, but
very common. We do not appreciate how hard English languages to learn and I am most impressed by
his use of the English language.

Why is it that we say "Wow, you speak Chinese!" but we don't say "Wow, you speak English!" Think
about that.



Quote:

If you have developed that speaking skill solely from self study I would be blown away.

Come meet some of the people I've met and you'll be blown away then. Last week I sat down with Da
Wei (you know the guy that's had his own TV show) for 3 hours, who was also self-taught for the
most part. (But then again people pretty much tried to chase him off the board for advocating
reform that more closely mimics the methods self-taught people have been using)



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Quote:

I also would like to know if you had any language partners bomaci? How often did you speak with
your Chinese coworker? If you have developed that speaking skill solely from self study I would be
blown away.

I have an opportunity to use chinese daily, so I get alot of speaking practice. However I still
feel I need to study. I don't think speaking practice alone gets you anywhere. I have met
countless of immigrants in Sweden who get tons of speaking practice everyday and still have a
thick accent. You still have to do a lot of listening and reading on your own. Where speaking
practice can help is to confirm that you are on the right track, that people actually can
understand your mandarin.










necroflux -

self-taught-mba, your post totally dispels any assumptions I made from your name, I fully withdraw
that comment. Well said. I was fully expecting a return jab at "necroflux" lol.










necroflux -



Quote:

I have an opportunity to use chinese daily, so I get alot of speaking practice. However I still
feel I need to study. I don't think speaking practice alone gets you anywhere. I have met
countless of immigrants in Sweden who get tons of speaking practice everyday and still have a
thick accent. You still have to do a lot of listening and reading on your own. Where speaking
practice can help is to confirm that you are on the right track, that people actually can
understand your mandarin.

No question I think every aspect of a language is equally important. I personally can feel when
I've been ignoring one in favor of the others.. it's like filling up multiple pools with water if
you will.










carlo -

Thanks for the link to the complete script of 我爱我家. I searched for this a couple of years
ago without success (I think they had only finished transcribing four episodes last time I
checked), it's nice to have the full version, I'm sure many learners of Chinese will appreciate it.










imron -

Don't know about the other scripts, but watching the first episode while looking at the script,
there were quite a few mistakes. Usually it seemed to be that the person doing the transcribing
was just using a different way of saying the same thing, but at other times, there are complete
sentences in the script that aren't said in the show.










Gestalt -

Bomaci,

I'm impressed. If your patented method costs less than Steve Kaufmann's, I'll buy it

How many hours a day/week did you spend speaking Mandarin, and how much on self-study? I presume
you must have spent quite a bit of time each day to get that good that fast?










bomaci -



Quote:

How many hours a day/week did you spend speaking Mandarin, and how much on self-study? I presume
you must have spent quite a bit of time each day to get that good that fast?

I approximately speak mandarin for an hour every day. So of course that helps. However I had to
study alot to be able to do that without the conversation turning into english. I self study on
all the spare time I have. I try to get in at least an hour of self study a day, sometimes i
manage 2. However I would like to point out that while being able to converse in mandarin alot
helps with fluency it does nothing to correct your tones unless you train yourself to hear your
errors. Also vocabulary used in conversation tends to be a bit limited so you still have to study
on your own.










self-taught-mba -



Quote:

self-taught-mba, your post totally dispels any assumptions I made from your name, I fully withdraw
that comment.

No offense taken originally and thank you for being cordial with a withdrawal.










mandarinstudent -

Bomaci, thanks for the links to the scripts for 我爱我家, but it seems what Imron said was
true:



Quote:

Don't know about the other scripts, but watching the first episode while looking at the script,
there were quite a few mistakes. Usually it seemed to be that the person doing the transcribing
was just using a different way of saying the same thing, but at other times, there are complete
sentences in the script that aren't said in the show.


My chinese is not good enough to pick out what the mistakes are sometimes...i.e. I know that what
they are saying isnt in the script, but i cant pick it out..or I hear an extra syllable or a
missing syllable but dont know what it is. Given that they are speaking so fast and using "native
speak" (今儿 instead of 今天 which is what im used to hearing...etc.), it is taking me forever
to muddle through the first 5 minutes of the show because the script doesnt exactly match. Im used
to recordings where they speak "perfect" Chinese very slowly. Im trying to get to the next level
and after listening to your interview and how well you speak, I thought it would be a good idea to
try this to improve my listening ability and help me speak more fluently. This show is perfect for
practicing "practical, everyday" Chinese that gives you an idea of the speed and manner in which
real (not from the tapes that come with your textbook or people reading the news)Chinese people
sound, but Im stuck because the scripts dont match perfectly. How did you get around this? Is
there a place to download the exact scripts? Maybe there is another show that is similar that also
has scripts to go with it? Is there a kind soul willing to correct the scripts for us beginners?












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runehh -

After a slow start I have now almost finished Pimsleur 1,2 and 3. So where to go from here? I have
bought several different textbooks and some of them are ok, but I dread the day I run out of
Pimsleur lessons, and will have to rely on books alone. Maybe I am stupid or lazy (probably both)
but I find it very difficult to learn from the books, now that I am used to the CD's.
Does anybody know of any Pimsleur style CD's or tapes that might be helpful? Or have any
suggestions as to how I can make the transition to books?



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kudra -

I don't know at what level Pimsleur stops.
2 things you might check:

1. general texts
http://www. /showthread.php?t=9612

2. Just see if you can understand the audio of lesson 1 of David and Helen
http://classes.yale.edu/chns130/Listening/index.html

Presumably if lesson 1 is understandable, then you are at 2nd year US univ. level.
Then at least there are many 10's of hrs of D+H audio.










anticks -

Congrats on finishing all 3. How do you find your conversational skills are at the moment? and
your listening?

Ive been wanting to find out what kind of level people are at after all 3 pimsleur courses as im
almost done with Level 1. My girl (who is chinese) said, after listning to a few of conversational
parts of various units in Mandarin III, that it sounds quite good and if i get to that level i
should be able to talk and understand quite a bit of day to day conversation.

My plan after Pimsleur is to look more at Rosetta Stone and Chinesepod.com for topics on different
things and using familiar words in different situations. I think there will be a few things that
they cover that Pimsleur does not. Right now im also about to start a short course. Im taking a 10
week, 30 hour evening course teaching Mandarin with a focus on communication. It wasnt too hard
for find out about this. Alot of local schools here get hired out by teachers who teach evening
classes in all sorts of things. Maybe you could look into it. Im not sure how much a 30 hour
course would actually help? Anyone had any experience in short courses?

Im planning to goto China at the end of 2007/Start of 2008. So that gives me over a year and a
half to study Mandarin.










incuria -

It seems like we are looking at the same mandarin courses. Some just starting out while others at
the end of a particular course.

Would it be possible to put up a post of the more common commercially available ones. Someone who
has fluency and had exposure to the various types of formats (book/cd,software, podcasts etc) and
rank them somehow in terms of beginner/intermediate/advanced.

There is already an extensive posting on different textbooks used at University. Non academic
types (or those not yet interested in learning the written script) such as myself are relying upon
straight off the shelf book/audio courses.

It would be helpful to have an idea what study materials would flow from one level to the next, so
we could get an idea and direction to head in to expand our level of knowledge or stay in one
place for the time being to revise.

No Course would cover everything so it is natural to ask the question "what next".

I'm just starting with Plimsleur 1 but supplement with Chinesepod.com (in the newbies section) as
I find the podcasts to be humerous and fun. A break from the repetition but also good to hear a
different set of voices.










kudra -

Just to comment on ...


Quote:

or those not yet interested in learning the written script...

The somewhat old Spoken Standard Chinese 1,2 series by Huang and Stimson was all pinyin. It has a
companion series of texts -- Written Standard Chinese 1-4. Apparently you can buy tapes for them
all but they are pricey. (There was a draft of Spoken vol 3, but it never got published. )( home
made mp3 may be available on the web somewhere at some point.)

It seems like at some point, you will want the "academic" treatment to get a systematic
presentation of grammar and patterns. I thought this was a very strong point about the Spoken
Standard Chinese 1-2 series.

I guess what you need is people to chime in, who've had success getting to mid intermediate level,
for example, doing self study using off the shelf audio/cd products. My guess, based on nothing
but my experiential bias toward the "academic" treatment, is that they are a rare breed.










incuria -

I think you are very correct kudra. Ultimately one could only go so far without learning the
script and just relying upon audio and pinyin.

It is good to see there is choice as to how deep you want to plunge into. I work on a front desk
where a small percentage (10% - guess) of people I meet have South East Asian background and are
invovled in litigation in the Court over work related injury and industrial relations/employment
type issues. Most of those speak good english - only a smaller number (1% guess) can't communicate
in english at all.

We have professional interpreters (usually asked for by the plaintiffs solicitor), to sit in Court
and interpret in real time during the proceedings regardless of their standard of english.

Often the plaintiff will arrive before their solicitor or interpreter. I think it would be great
for me to be able to greet and give directions/basic information in their native tongue to assist
them feel at ease with the process. Who wouldn't feel nervous going to Court?

Hence relying upon audio to communicate in the first instance. As an Officer of the Court I can't
start giving interpretations/translations on legal issues so basic tourist type dialogue to help
settle people in before their solicitor arrives will be just the thing.

Thanks for the info on Huang and Stimson. Shall keep an eye out for it on the net. I'll stick to
audio and pinyin for the moment and just get used to the sounds of the language.










gato -



Quote:

small percentage (10% - guess) of people I meet have South East Asian background and are invovled
in litigation

Do you know if they speak Mandarin Chinese? Don't want to plunge in and study the wrong language.










bomaci -



Quote:

I guess what you need is people to chime in, who've had success getting to mid intermediate level,
for example, doing self study using off the shelf audio/cd products. My guess, based on nothing
but my experiential bias toward the "academic" treatment, is that they are a rare breed.

I have gotten to the intermediate level (if intermediate level means that you understand the last
lesson of "David and Helen in china" ) almost entirely through self study. However I have also had
many opportunities to communicate with natvie speakers. I first used Pimsleur and later "Standard
chinese: a modular approach" by the Foreign Service Institute. However I am not sure that I would
recommend either. I would suggest you have a look at the Assimil chinese course. You can read
about the Assimil methodology more in detail here:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com...=22&PN=1&TPN=1.










incuria -

#7 Gato my percentages and geography are probably way out. A fairer picture is a cross section of
clients come by. Languages include Mandarin, Vietnamese, Arabic, Farsi/Dari, Spanish. I can almost
guess the origin of the client by surname, against a backdrop of mainly caucasian people.

The assigned interpreters put any guess work to rest by identifying themselves as "I'm the Farsi
interpreter for Ms ....." (so I get to cheat on that score )

I seem to think that a lot of people in chinese forum are learning for more exacting and
professional roles of linguistic use than I will ever need to worry about.

I do take my hat off to those people. I admire anyone who is mulitilingual regardless of the
purpose or origin of that learning process. I think it is great the way people "think aloud" on
the forum and give ideas on their learning curve to where they are heading.










gato -

Good luck, incuria!












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Study Chinese - Potter star Emma Watson to continue studies

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Updated: 2007-07-07 18:03



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The 17-year-old actress, who plays the role of Hermione Granger in Potter
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Chinese language - Having the great Chinese adventure

CITYLIFE / My Opinion






Having the great Chinese adventure

By Matt Doran (chinadaily.com.cn)
Updated: 2007-07-05 15:52



Prior to my departure earlier this year for what was supposed to be a
mere four months in China, my friends questioned whether I'd be homesick,
whether I'd have culture shock, and whether I'd be kissing the ground
when I returned home in May.

Thing is, I never went home in May. After a month studying Chinese at
Beijing Foreign Studies University (BFSU) in Haidian District, I decided
four months just wasn't enough, and re-applied for the fall semester. In
between, I'm working full-time for Chinadaily.com.cn and living in an
apartment that my boss helped me find, in the northern reaches of
Chaoyang District.

And, five months into my China experience, I'm happy to report that
there's nowhere else I'd rather be.

That's because the last few months have been some of the best I've ever
had - I've had a stronger dose of independence and adventure since I got
here than I'd experienced yet in the States, and I love it.

When you move to a place without speaking a single word of the language,
every day and every little routine aspect of your life becomes an
adventure, as you try to grope your way blindly through the various
situations that would be rote in the States.

Riding the bus somewhere? All well and good, provided I can figure out
which bus I need to be on. Recently, a co-worker's husband kindly pointed
out the bus I needed to get over to BFSU from my apartment. He got the
bus number right, but unfortunately guided me in the wrong direction. I
ended up somewhere past the Fifth Ring Road, on a dirt road in the middle
of an orchard, near the bus depot when we reached the end of the line. I
probably should have realized earlier that I needed to get off and go the
opposite direction, but it was an adventure, and I saw a new part of the
city that otherwise I'd have missed. Then there's the constant adventure
of trying to feed myself. Back near BFSU, there's a cornucopia of small,
cheap restaurants and street food vendors catering to hungry and hard up
for cash students. In my new neighborhood, no such luck. My room-mate and
I spent two solid days unsuccessfully combing the neighborhood for a new
eatery to call "The Food Spot."

"The Food Spot" is basically a restaurant that college-age guys go to
pretty much everyday for a quick, cheap and filling meal. It's usually a
mom-and-pop operation, the wait staff know what you're going to order
every time, and you get to fill your stomach without emptying your wallet.

I lost 10 pounds before my room-mate finally found "The Spot" last week,
at an outdoor food court in front of a supermarket just a minute's walk
from our apartment. For just a few kuai, we can get all of our favorites:
fried noodles, fried rice, and jiaozi (dumplings).

A lot of Westerners get their rear-ends kicked by China; they can't
handle the linguistic and cultural barriers, the pollution, the spitting,
the apparent inability of Chinese people to ever line up for anything,
and the sometimes less-than-efficient manner in which tasks are handled.
I figure if I wanted to avoid those sorts of hassles, then I could have
stayed in America, and what fun would that have been?

If we're in an asylum, and many of my fellow ex-pats think we are, then
I've taken a "can't beat'em, might as well join 'em," approach, and
joined the inmates, turning weaknesses into strengths.

The language barrier? It actually provides a nice layer of insulation
from the swarming crowds of the city; being the dumb foreigner actually
helps get a lot of things done with minimum hassle.

The spitting thing? Hey, if the Chinese think Americans don't know how to
hock a loogie, they'll think again when I let one fly on the sidewalk. If
they can do it, I can do it.

Lining up, or rather not lining up, is my favorite part. Why? Because I'm
bigger than 99 percent of the Chinese people I've ever seen! Who's going
to get in my way if I want to be the first onto the bus? Me or The guy
who's 5 feet tall and weighs 100 pounds? For the first week or so, I was
always getting shoved aside by tiny old ladies, but I finally learned
that you have to be aggressive, and now I will not hesitate to drop the
hammer if someone cuts in front of me.

And that's the key to a great China experience: don't fight the insanity,
but rather, revel in it. What a great country.

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Learning Chinese - Tourism Etiquette Rules for Chinese Citizens Traveling Abroad

CITYLIFE / Tourism Etiquette






Tourism Etiquette Rules for Chinese Citizens Traveling Abroad

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Updated: 2007-07-04 11:21



Chinese citizens traveling abroad must observe the local standards of
propriety while keeping their own national dignity.

1 Keep the place clean and tidy, and protect the environment. Be dressed
appropriatedly. Don't yell or talk loudly.

2 Respect senior citizens and care for children. And be ready to help
others in need. To the female practice "lady first"; to others follow the
rule "after you, please".

3 Keep track of the time difference and arrive at appointments on time.
Wait in a queue to get your turn and stand behind the yellow line.

4 Be a welcome guest in a hotel. Don't damage objects in hotel rooms.
Wine and dine quietly, and don't waste food.

5 Go in for healthy and cultured entertainments, and say no to
pornography, gambling and drugs.

6 Follow the rules and tips on sightseeing tours. Be careful to observe
the local customs or taboos. Don't violate or offend against them.

7 When in doubt or difficulty, make enquiries to the Chinese embassy or
the consulate. Be a responsible traveler and enjoy a safe and pleasant
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Learning Mandarin - Leaping out of the pop star shadows

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CITYLIFE / what's on








Leaping out of the pop star shadows

By Mu Qian (China Daily)
Updated: 2007-07-03 08:56

Silver Rain, presented by the City Contemporary Dance Company, is
inspired by the immense Chinese culture. [File photo]

The Hong Kong Culture Series - Dance Collection introduces Beijing
audiences to Hong Kong's modern dance world, an artistic form often
overshadowed by its pop cultures.

The event opened on Sunday at the Oriental Pioneer Theater of Beijing
with a free photographic exhibition and will run through till July 10.

The event's presenter, Beijing LDTX Modern Dance Company, has also
invited four modern dance groups from Hong Kong to perform at the
Oriental Pioneer Theater: City Contemporary Dance Company, Unlock Dancing
Plaza, why_me_dance and Passover Dance Company.

"These troupes' works are of various styles. Some may shock you, some may
make you laugh, and some will bring you very fine feelings," says Willy
Tsao, artistic director of Beijing LDTX Modern Dance Company and City
Contemporary Dance Company.

Today and tomorrow, Hong Kong's first and longest-running professional
modern dance group City Contemporary Dance Company will present a
performance titled Silver Rain, which puts together the most memorable
works of six outstanding choreographers of the group, including Tsao. The
works are inspired by the immense Chinese culture including philosophy,
history, operas and even Chinese rock'n'roll, and Xing Liang, a graduate
of Beijing Dance Academy who has won numerous awards.

On July 6, the Unlock Dancing Plaza will perform Whisper of Love, which
is "the pursuit of ordinary sensation from the extraordinary world".

Unlock Dancing Plaza tries to stress the exchange between audience and
performers, and create a new and tailored experience of modern dance
viewing for audiences.

On July 8, the why_me_dance group will present You Had Better Dance,
which was inspired by John Lennon's song Beautiful Boy. On July 10, the
Passover Dance Company will perform a work titled Xin Xiang, which the
choreographers will bring a bit of freshness to the busy city.

There will be a "meet-the-artist" session after every performance, and
the dancers and choreographers from Hong Kong will also have dance
workshops during their stay in Beijing.

The Hong Kong Culture Series will present a number of events to introduce
the representative culture of Hong Kong. After the modern dance
collection, the series will bring the Cantonese Artists Association of
Hong Kong to perform a Cantonese opera in Beijing in October.

"We hope that this series will change many people's impression that Hong
Kong is a commercial city with no culture," says Tsao. "Though it's very
easy for mainlanders to travel to Hong Kong now, the Hong Kong Culture
Series provide a rare opportunity to get to know Hong Kong's culture
systematically."

The event is supported by the Beijing Office of the Government of the
Hong Kong SAR, Hong Kong Arts Development Council and the Art Development
Fund of the Home Affair Bureau of the Government of the Hong Kong SAR.

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Chinese language - Exhibit honoring Diana opens in London

ENTERTAINMENT / Theater & Arts






Exhibit honoring Diana opens in London

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Updated: 2007-06-30 13:53








A visitor views pictures, reflected in a mirrored surface, of late
Princess Diana, made by photographer Mario Testino, at Kensington Palace
in central London, Friday June 29, 2007. [AP]


LONDON - An exhibit of photographs, film footage and other memorabilia
from the life of Diana, Princess of Wales will go on display Saturday at
the palace where she lived.

Called "Diana: A Princess Remembered," the exhibit is the largest
collection of images of the princess to date, organizers said. It opens
with a photograph of the princess as a toddler and follows her through
her marriage to Prince Charles. Diana died in August, 1997, after the car
in which she was a passenger crashed in a Paris tunnel.

The exhibit, at Kensington Palace, opens on the eve of what would have
been the princess' 46th birthday and just two months before the 10th
anniversary of her death.

Exhibitions featuring Diana have been held at Kensington Palace in the
past, including a collection of her dresses and photographs from her
famous photo shoot with fashion photographer Mario Testino.

"This is a more formal exhibition," said Sarah Watson, spokeswoman for
Historic Royal Palaces, which is organizing the show. "It brings together
previous exhibits and tells the story of her life."

The exhibition focuses on four themes: Diana the princess, Diana the
mother, Diana the fashion icon and Diana the humanitarian. Video
interviews with various people who worked with the princess are also
featured.

Visitors can see the exhibition from July 30 through the beginning of
January 2008. Entry to the exhibit is included in the admission price to
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HSK - Great wanderer makes us all wonder where the real men are

ENTERTAINMENT / Hot Pot Column






Great wanderer makes us all wonder where the real men are

By Ben Davey (China Daily)
Updated: 2007-06-28 14:39



Well done, Mr Chad Swanson, well played sir. It's not every morning that
you reach for your copy of the China Daily, thumb through to the Hot Pot
column and are faced with prose of such power, poise, dignity and just
plain Manliness that all of your back hairs stand as one.

Yesterday, Chad wrote about his experience of climbing the Great Wall and
how it transformed him from his previous status of mere "Man" to his
current status of "Manly Man". Brave Chad wrote: "As I stood there on the
mountain top, hair blowing in the wind, I could finally call myself a
man."

Try and stop yourself from getting misty over sentiments such as those.
It's nigh impossible, I know, and I admit that Man tears cascaded down my
leathered cheeks as I grasped the audacity and scale of Chad's
accomplishment.

Because real men cry too, you know. They cry and hold each other tenderly
on corporate-funded wilderness trips where they strip naked, smother each
other in Ox blood and howl at the moon while listening to Garth Brooks's
No Fences. That's because Garth Brooks understands how painful it can be
sometimes to be a Man, just like Chad found out while climbing the Great
Wall in his quest for Greatness.

Sometimes being a Man means choosing to scale the wild quarters of the
Wall, such as Jiankou, not the sissy paved parts like Badaling. After
all, there's no blood on Badaling's fresh bricks.

When it comes to bloodsports, real men don't hunt with weapons unless
it's a blunt knife. That's because only the real-est of Real Men
comprehend that opening the throat of another creature is something that
must be done while holding your prey as you arrange the meeting with its
maker.

I think there's a Native American tribe that advocated this particular
style of killing as the Manliest way to slay; to be honest, the guy who
told me this wasn't actually a Native American at all, he was a drunk
Australian expat that I met at Bar Blu in Sanlitun. But by the way that
this particularly inebriated Man recounted this knowledge, I could tell
he was among the Real-est of Real Men. He even divulged other snippets of
wisdom, such as: "If you want a chick, just take her mate".

I'm sure the villain from Three Amigos - I think his name was El Guapo -
said something similar to that one time. El Guapo was one of the Real-est
Manly Men ever, even if he was a fictional character.

Gazing out onto the sprawling wilderness below him, Chad must have been
the envy of the known Masculine world standing atop the Great Wall as
curious onlookers gazed upon his statuesque robustness. I only hope those
lucky enough to witness his achievement wore sunglasses to prevent
temporary blindness from the sheer brilliance of this foreigner's aura.

I wonder though, if my mother or sister climb the Great Wall, does that
also make them Great Men?


(China Daily 06/27/2007 page20)










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Chinese language - Freed Paris gets back to being Paris

ENTERTAINMENT / Gossip






Freed Paris gets back to being Paris


Updated: 2007-06-27 07:55









Paris Hilton walks out of the Angeles County Sheriff Department's Century
Regional Detention Facility in Lynwood, Calif., Tuesday June 26, 2007.
Paris Hilton has been released from jail after serving about three weeks
for an alcohol-related reckless driving case. [AP]



LOS ANGELES - Paris Hilton got out of jail Tuesday and immediately got
back to being Paris Hilton, summoning a hair-salon van and, by her mere
presence, creating a huge traffic jam that angered the neighbors.

It appeared that Hilton's plans to serve God in some way, perhaps by
creating a halfway house for former ex-convicts like herself, would have
to wait at least a day as she readjusted to the simple life of fame and
celebrity.

"There's not going to be a press conference today. I just spoke to Mr.
Hilton. They have no plans to make any statement," police Sgt. B. Anthony
Roberts told reporters assembled outside the front gate of her
grandparents' estate as the newly freed heiress kept a low profile inside.

Although Hilton kept out of sight, her presence was still palpable up and
down the block, from the TV satellite vans that took up so much room on
the narrow street that cars couldn't pass one another to the fast-food
luncheon that was passed along to the assembled masses outside.

"Delivery for Paris from Taco Bell," one of two delivery people who
arrived with bags of food said into the intercom outside the front gate.

"Thank you. Give it to the media and the police," a voice from inside the
mansion replied.

Her transition back to celebutante started hours earlier when she was let
out of jail shortly after midnight in a seedy section of Lynwood. Hilton
managed to transform the event to almost the equivalent of a red-carpet
arrival.

With cameras flashing, she made her so-called perp walk from jail to a
waiting SUV by smiling, waving and strutting past the assembled masses in
tight jeans and white stiletto heels. She ignored shouted questions, but
occasionally said hi or slapped hands with sheriff's deputies holding the
photographers at bay until she reached the SUV and hugged her mother.

From there it was a quick drive to fashionable Holmby Hills, home to
Playboy magazine founder Hugh Hefner among others, and a stop at her
grandparents' house.

As she stayed inside throughout the day, more than a dozen cars pulled up
to the gate and were quickly buzzed inside, their occupants declining to
talk with reporters. One of those who entered was her spokesman, Elliott
Mintz, who declined to comment.

Hilton was scheduled to break her silence Wednesday night with an
interview on CNN's "Larry King Live."

At one point Tuesday, a black Cadillac Escalade carrying balloons and a
cake with the words "Welcome Home" in pink frosting arrived at her
grandparents' home. At another, a van from DreamCatchers Hair Extensions,
for which Hilton is the celebrity pitchwoman, passed through the gates.
DreamCatchers receptionist Crystal Armijo confirmed the heiress was
having extensions added to her hair.

A makeup artist arrived on foot with a little pushcart filled with
cosmetics. A stylist also walked up to the gate carrying several designer
bags filled with stuff.

So what about Hilton's words from jail, issued through various interviews
and statements, about how God had given her a second chance and she was
going to do something more meaningful with her life.

"Oh please!" said retired attorney Martha Karsh who was out for a morning
walk with her 21-year-old daughter, Katie, when she came upon the media
onslaught. Until then, she said, she never knew a Hilton lived in the
neighborhood.

Karsh and other early morning walkers found the scrum of paparazzi
photographers and journalists amusing. As the day progressed and traffic
picked up, however, people trapped in the street in their cars with horns
honking all around them failed to see the humor.

"I'm trying to get my daughter to her dance class," an angry Mindy Mann
said as she called police on her cell phone.

One passing motorist took both hands off the steering wheel to make an
obscene gesture to reporters. Roberts, the police sergeant, urged those
gathered outside the mansion to park responsibly.

It was driving, not parking, irresponsibly that put Hilton in jail. She
failed a field sobriety test after being stopped last September, then got
caught twice driving with a suspended license while on probation for
reckless driving.

She reported to jail June 3 after walking the red carpet at the MTV Movie
Awards but was sent home under house arrest four days later after Sheriff
Lee Baca said she developed psychological problems while in jail. Ordered
back to the slammer by her sentencing judge, she remained locked up
another 2 1/2 weeks.








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Free Chinese Lesson - 1408

ENTERTAINMENT / New Releases






1408


Updated: 2007-06-11 14:40




Renowned horror novelist Mike Enslin believes only in what he can see
with his own two eyes. But after a string of best-sellers discrediting
paranormal events in the most infamous haunted houses and graveyards
around the world, he has no real proof of life--afterlife. But Enslin's
phantom-free run of long and lonely nights is about to change forever
when he checks into suite 1408 of the notorious Dolphin Hotel for his
latest project, "Ten Nights in Haunted Hotel Rooms." Defying the warnings
of the hotel manager, the author is the first person in years to stay in
the reputedly haunted room. Another best-seller may be imminent, but
first he must go from skeptic to true believer--and ultimately survive
the night.

Production Status: In Production/Awaiting Release

Logline: In hotel room #1408, a writer, known for his ghost stories and
haunted tales, gets a taste of his own fiction when his stay turns into a
night of fright.

Genres: Suspense/Horror and Adaptation

Release Date: June 22nd, 2007 (wide)

MPAA Rating: PG-13 for thematic material including disturbing sequences
of violence and terror, frightening images and language.

Distributors: Dimension Films, MGM Distribution Company

Production Co.: di Bonaventura Pictures, Inc.

Studios: Dimension Films

Filming Locations: United Kingdom

Produced in: United States











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Chinese Studies - Billboards Of bald Britney bounced

ENTERTAINMENT / Music






Billboards Of bald Britney bounced

(AP)
Updated: 2007-06-20 14:34


Radio station billboards that featured unflattering photos of a bald,
scowling Britney Spears have been taken down after the pop star's
attorneys threatened legal action.

In a letter to Clear Channel Communications Inc. dated Thursday, Spears'
attorneys accused the company of "offensive, unauthorized commercial
exploitation" of the 25-year-old singer, and demanded that the three
billboards in the Tampa area be removed. The letter was posted on The
Smoking Gun Web site.

The billboards, advertisements for WFLZ FM's "The MJ Morning Show,"
depicted a bald Spears and show host Todd Schnitt along with the slogans
"Total Nut Jobs," "Shock Therapy" and "Certifiable."

"We have confirmed that the billboards are down," Clear Channel
spokeswoman Michele Clarke said Tuesday. She referred other questions to
the Clear Channel offices in Tampa, whose representatives didn't
immediately return a call seeking comment.

"Clear Channel has removed the billboards, and I'm not happy with that,"
Schnitt told the St. Petersburg Times.

A call to the Los Angeles attorney who signed the letter to Clear Channel
wasn't immediately returned Tuesday.

Spears completed a month-long stay at a luxury Malibu, Calif.,
rehabilitation treatment facility in March after attracting an onslaught
of media attention for wild behavior that included partying with Paris
Hilton and a stop at a San Fernando Valley hair salon, where she shaved
her own head.











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Chinese Class - Owen Wilson, Nick Nolte hark to "Thunder"

ENTERTAINMENT / Movies






Owen Wilson, Nick Nolte hark to "Thunder"

(Reuters)
Updated: 2007-06-18 14:20



LOS ANGELES - Owen Wilson and Nick Nolte have joined the cast of the
comedy "Tropic Thunder," trade publication Daily Variety reported.

The feature centers on a group of actors who go on location to shoot a
war movie and find themselves in the midst of real-life conflict.

Ben Stiller, who is directing the film, wrote the script with Justin
Theroux and Etan Cohen.

Stiller is also a member of the ensemble cast, along with Jack Black,
Robert Downey Jr., Brandon Jackson, Steve Coogan, Danny McBride, Bill
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Chinese Character - "Utopia" makes for ideal "Forbidden" fruit

ENTERTAINMENT / Theater & Arts






"Utopia" makes for ideal "Forbidden" fruit

(Reuters)
Updated: 2007-06-13 18:38



NEW YORK - All those Tony wins for "The Coast of Utopia" definitely add
oomph to "Forbidden Broadway: The Roast of Utopia," the special summer
retrospective edition of the "Forbidden Broadway" franchise that debuts
Wednesday and runs through August 22 at the 47th Street Theatre.

Not only will Tom Stoppard's nine-hour marathon be royally spoofed, but
so will Sunday's other big Tony champ, "Spring Awakening," as well as
"Mary Poppins" and other current shows, mixed in with encores of the most
popular "Forbidden" parodies from the past 25 years.

As always, Gerard Alessandrini is the writer-creator and also co-director
with Phillip George; an all-new edition is being planned for the fall.
(Under the terms of its rental agreement with the 47th Street Theatre,
"Forbidden" has to vacate the theater for several weeks each spring so
the theater's resident company, the Puerto Rican Traveling Theatre, can
play its season.)


About those Tony Awards: They might have been walloped in the ratings by
Tony Soprano, but for those who were watching, the Broadway scene
basically looked very inviting, with some good selling done on at least
half of the musicals that opened this season, especially "Awakening," "A
Chorus Line" and "Curtains"; less inviting were the sequences chosen to
represent "110 in the Shade," "Company" and "Grey Gardens."

In the highly competitive best actress in a musical category, Christine
Ebersole triumphed as she should have; the same when Frank Langella
received the prize in the super-tight best actor in a play category.
Langella also gave the night's best acceptance speech, with Mary Louise
Wilson of "Grey Gardens" and David Hyde Pierce of "Curtains" also as
eloquent as we always want a Broadway veteran to be.

Most charmingly enthusiastic speechmaker: Julie White, best actress for
"The Little Dog Laughed." The most elegant ladies onstage: the classy
Angela Lansbury and best featured actress winner Jennifer Ehle.


"The Pirate Queen" swashes its final buckle Sunday after 85 performances,
plus previews, at the Hilton. Sixteen days later, on July 3, an original
cast recording of the Boublil-Schoenberg score will be released
nationwide by the Masterworks Broadway label.


Richard Thomas, who's been traveling the country in the Roundabout
Theatre Company's tour production of "12 Angry Men," isn't ready to call
it quits. He's agreed to tour in the Reginald Rose play for a second
year, hitting 19 cities in 28 weeks, including Cleveland, Toronto, Costa
Mesa, Calif., Fort Lauderdale, Fla., and Charlotte, N.C. Thomas will
again play Juror No. 8, the role Robert Cummings played in the original
1954 Studio One TV version directed by Franklin Schaffner and by Henry
Fonda in Sidney Lumet's 1957 film.


Michael Feinstein finishes his current run at Feinstein's at Loews
Regency on Saturday. On every night of his two-week salute to cabaret
legend Bobby Short, Feinstein has had a different guest star join him
onstage to do one number and share a Short memory or two. Elaine Stritch
was the first on June 5; the marvelous singer-pianist Charlie Cochran
takes the final guest spot Saturday.







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Chinese Tutor - Jessica Alba has a crush on Prince William

ENTERTAINMENT / Gossip






Jessica Alba has a crush on Prince William

(Agencies)
Updated: 2007-06-11 19:00



Hollywood siren Jessica Alba has fuelled speculation that her
relationship with boyfriend Cash Warren is in 'royal' trouble by
revealing that she has a crush on Prince William.

The 26-year-old actress, who shot to fame after her film "Sin City"
became a runaway hit, said she was still searching for a perfect father
for her future children, contactmusic.com website reported.

Alba, who has been dating Warren from January 2005, said: "I always felt
I had been born into the wrong family. I felt I should have been a royal."

Jessica Alba also expressed her confusion that she could't understand why
actresses choose to have plastic surgery.

Alba has vowed that she will never go under the knife because she wants
to age gracefully and retain the expressive nature of her face for acting
roles.

"As an actress, you express emotion with your face. And if you have
plastic surgery, you lose that spark," Alba explained. "People usually
look better without surgery - my grandmother aged very gracefully."







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