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alkizmo -

How's the guest control in ECNU dormitory?

Last time I went someplace as a foreign exchange student, they'd monitor all the guests coming in
and it was very frustrating since I got a single room for my girlfriend to spend nights over.

If they control the guests, then do you know if they ALSO control guests at the "hotel" dormitory?



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shanghaikai -

They do monitor guests and last I recall, they even started enforcing curfew, threatening to lock
out students after a certain time. Of course, you could knock on the door and the guard would let
you in if he recognized you as living there but that made sneaking someone in all the harder.

If you have a girlfriend or friend visiting from abroad and staying with you, you could notify the
front desk in advance and they'll probably waive in your guest for the duration of their stay. As
for bringing home random people, you'd have to get more clever in that department. The hotel is
more lax than the dorms, probably because plenty of the local chinese students use the hotel for
their amorous misadventures. If you ever wonder why every university has a hotel, its not so much
for legitimate visitors as it is for the kids to have a place to boink.










alkizmo -

They even have a curfew? awww jeez what is this?
Does the guard actually let you in at any time if you live there? I'm not shy of showing up drunk
to the guard.

Let's say i bring in someone before the curfew, and that person stays in, would they actually go
search for that person?

And would they really let me bring in a friend visiting from abroad or my girlfriend if I ask in
advance? Or if it's a local girlfriend who'd visit me every now and then?

Funny, in all my north american residences, there never was a curfew or guest check-in.

In all my asian residences, it is like living in a bording school :p










shanghaikai -

They instituted the curfew halfway through my semester there. I'm not really sure why but one has
to assume that something or another prompted them to do so.

Yes, the guard will certainly let you in even after curfew as long as you live there. They pretty
much know that foreigners, especially westerners, won't stand for being completely locked down due
to cultural differences. However, they can reasonably enforce restrictions on non-residents being
allowed into the student dorms.

If I recall correctly, they may ask you to write down in a log when you bring someone in at any
time during the day before curfew. I have no idea if they will go hunt for that person after
curfew but I highly doubt it.

They tend to be more lenient towards white people because your skin automatically indicates that
you're probably more liberal than they are and would not bother to understand their official moral
tendencies even if they tried explaining it to you. If you have an obviously foreign girlfriend
(read: non-asian looking), they'll accomodate you if you notify them. As for having a regular
local Chinese girlfriend come over, that's far less likely...in my experience.

In my experience both here and back in the States, I expect dorms to regulate visitors. There's
always some sort of rule and check-in procedure if not also a check-out procedure.










alkizmo -

alright alright, too bad one friend who will visit me is Chinese :p though she has a Canadian
residency card


Last question about ECNU (for now). Is there always enough "single" room in the residency
building? Or is it the first thing to go?

Did you reserve by calling in advance, or its on a first arrived-first served basis?

The single rooms are darn cheap compared to the hotel single rooms :p I just want one real bad










shanghaikai -

If your friend is of the opposite gender and even Chinese, you can still get them to let her stay
in your room for a temporary period of time. Just let them know that she is a friend visiting you
and will be staying in your room. Unless you're sharing a room, there shouldn't be much of a
problem as long as you're a nice guy overall who doesn't piss them off on a regular basis.

In my experience, I don't think getting a single room is very difficult. I wouldn't worry about it
too much. As for securing housing, I think you have to get it when you get there so plan to arrive
a few days early prior to registration if you're nervous.










alkizmo -

Great, Ill jump in the plane as early as I can then :p

Ok, ONE MORE QUESTION since you're so helpful ;)

Do I need to show that you got a return ticket when I pass the customs at the airport? Normally
you would if you are a visitor, proof that you WILL leave the country, but obviously Im not going
to use the return ticket and I'll be coming in with an X or L visa.

One-Way tickets are offered half the price of the two-way (neat uh? not normal)










shanghaikai -

No, you do not need to show a return ticket. Just make sure you don't overstay your visa and you
should be fine.










alkizmo -

Goodie goodie

well thanks!

I'll be in ECNU within the next 3 weeks ;)










alkizmo -

Hey did you take the taxi straight from Pudong airport or you took the bus route as suggested in
the pre-arrival guide?

They mention it is 40 rmb if you take the taxi from Hongqian airport, but if taxi from Pudong is
under 100rmb, then I'd gladly pay for it to avoid taking the bus :p

oh and do you tip? :O












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