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Tommi -

I asked today about registering for the next HSK in June, atleast in Sichuan Uni they allow
registrations online and in person this time because of the amount of complaints they had last
time. I would think this also applies to other HSK exam places?



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Jingjing-N -

Answer:
To Roddy: To create a test site, we have much consideration. Besides the equipment condition, the
number of HSK candidates is also a big deal. That is to say, if the university has a great demand
of HSK, we may think about it. Next week, we are going to hold a test administration conference,
gathering all test sites in China together in Beijing and have a further discussion about the
problems.
To anonymoose: Some candidates encountered the same problem with you. But the nuber is relatively
small, most of the candidates can do it successfully. So this time, we allow online registration
and in-person registration. Time schedule is on our homepage

Attention,everyone! If you have any questions and confusions about HSK, please tell me as soon as
possible. The HSK administrtation conference will be held next week focusing on discussing and
trying to find solutions of them. And any constructive suggestions are welcomed!!!










wushijiao -

Hi Jingjing-N. I am really glad to see that your attitude towards taking in suggestions about the
HSK is so positive!

I have taken the HSK fives times, at Jiaotong and Shanghai Normal University, and I have to say
that the officiating and quality of equipment has been very good every time. However, it does make
me a bit angry to hear stories of test-takers openly cheating. As you know, the test is graded on
a curve. If a significant percentage of people cheat, that will certainly influence the overall
scores. Personally, I think that if a person is found cheating on the exam, his or her paper
should be taken, and the person shouldn’t be given a score.

I would also endorse the idea of being able to pay with foreign credit cards. This would be very
convenient for the people who are not able to register in person.










kdavid -



Quote:

I would also endorse the idea of being able to pay with foreign credit cards. This would be very
convenient for the people who are not able to register in person.

Also, wouldn't all of the test-takers be foreigners and therefore using foreign credit cards to
register? I'm sure there are exceptions for those who have been in China for awhile and have
Chinese bank accounts. I agree with the posters above in that foreign credit cards should be
accepted.










pandaxiongmao -

Non-chinese speaking ethnic minorities also have to take the HSK test to enter Uni. So it isn't
just foreigners taking the test.

Hainan does not have an HSK test site because of the lack non-chinese speaking ethnic minorities.
I don't know the actual numbers, but I'd guess there are more of these ethnic minorities taking
the test than actual foreigners taking the test within China.










roddy -

There's a specific test for minority students I think - MHK? - can't remember the actual name and
don't know the figures, but I'd suspect they don't make up a huge proportion of HSK takers. But
unless one of us actually bothers finding the numbers

The HSK office is providing a service, and as such as it needs to be making things as easy as
possible for its customers. That means in person registration for those who want it, and online
options using both Chinese and overseas payment options. It can't just choose the one that's easy
for itself and then tell us it's 'convenient ' - you give us the choice, we'll decide which one is
convenient. If there needs to be a reasonable fee for the extra costs of in person registration,
that's ok.

I also think there's too much focus on developing new tests rather than fixing the problems with
the existing ones. See here - all those issues with the levels of the core exams have been ignored
literally for years. That post is from 2005, I wrote this (see the bottom) in 2003. This issues
arise from poor planning and should never have arisen in the first place, and they need fixed. If
you don't do that, how much confidence can we have in your other exams?

Don't misunderstand - I think in general the HSK office does a relatively good job, and I
certainly have a lot more faith in you than in your friends at 汉办. But there's a lot of change
and expansion happening, and I'm not convinced it's changing and expanding in the right direction.










gato -



Quote:

Non-chinese speaking ethnic minorities also have to take the HSK test to enter Uni.

Ethnic minorities can take the MHK for university admission. There's a one-on-one oral section in
the MHK, done in person by an examiner, and is graded on a pass-fail basis. Since the HSK is
graded on a curve, it wouldn't make sense for minority students who have lived all their lives in
China to take it.

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heifeng -

First of all I also applaud Jingjing-N for starting this thread. Here are some of my thoughts on
the HSK.

ONLINE:
I actually don't mind waiting in line to register. I think that it is not that much of a hassle at
all IF you are in China, so registering in person should still be an option for us. However, if
you are going to have an online service for students to register, you definitely need to make sure
it is user-friendly for the end user: the students, and not just for your organization. Right now,
without the foreign credit card option it is not very user-friendly (as already mentioned) period.

TESTING PROBLEMS
I have also taken the HSK a total of 4 times at BLCU (5+ if you count the C.Test and other 'guinea
pig' exams in the afternoon after the advanced HSK), once for the chuzhong and 3 times for the
advanced exam. Luckily I have never really encountered terrible problems regarding the
administering of the exam. In fact I think it is always very well organized at BLCU and usually on
the strict side. However, if this isn't the case at other universities and students are taking
advantage of this, well than that affects my score too and I am extremely unhappy about that.

USEFULLNESS:
99% of the reason I take the advance HSK is to give myself some sort of goal and gauge my
progress. However, It WOULD be nice if the HSK or even the C.Test actually seemed to have some
real use to us while we are in China. As a westerner studying Chinese I originally thought that
maybe the HSK would offer some 'proof' of my proficiency level (I won't discuss how accurate that
proof is on this thread however). Originally I felt the more 'proof' the better since many people
generally have the preconception that westerners cannot speak, read, write, understand Chinese
very well. However, I have NEVER even had an opportunity to use my certificate for anything
whatsoever, nor have I met any Chinese person outside of a university even knew what the HSK is.
(Unlike those English Level exams Chinese students take that everyone knows about.) So I guess
what I am asking, outside of the academic community and (apparently) companies in Korea, is your
office trying to boost the name of the HSK to make more people familiar with it? I am happy to
take the exam just to motivate myself, but it WOULD be nice if I had a chance to use the
certificate for something.....anything.

ACTUAL CONTENT PROBLEMS & SOME STUFF YOU PROBABLY CANNOT ANSWER, BUT THEY ARE NOT SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS, JUST GENERAL QUESTIONS:
Roddy already mentioned the important questions above.

However, after taking the afternoon exam this past April after the Advanced exam I have the
following feedback and general questions: (Sorry, I sort of wrote this on the survey after the
exam, but exhaustion may have set in so I don't know if it made sense...so I am rewriting it here
for your personal viewing convenience)

Listening: I don't have any problems with the changes here.
Zonghe & Reading: Why would the office want to put so many questions on the correct order (ABCD)
of sentences. It seemed a bit excessive. At least with the current test format section 2 of the
Zonghe forces us to improve our vocabulary a bit more. Overall, getting rid of the zonghe section
4 of the current exam is a welcomed change, but I don't think section 2 should be excluded. Also
the new zhonghe & reading section is REALLY LONG. By the time you get to the reading (if you
follow the sequence of the questions), if you didn't pace yourself well, then you are totally
going to be unable to complete many of the questions. It just seems less mentally exhausting to
have shorter sections rather than one super long one...followed by the shortest section of them
all...What is the logic here?.

Speed-reading: I am just wondering what the motivation behind this section is. Is this modeled off
of other language proficiency exams?

So is this DEFINITELY the new format that is going into effect next year, 2008?

FRIVOLOUS STUFF
Lastly, I think the advanced certificates should have a real embossed seal on them to make them
more official looking. I was a bit shocked when I noticed my chuzhong certificate had the seal and
my advanced certificate didn't....(yes, this is very frivolous, but it just seemed very odd to me )

thank you










Jingjing-N -

The first revised HSK will be held officially in June. There are 3 grades: elementary,
intermediate and advanced. I personally think this division is better. HSK Revised adds speaking
and writing part. You can find the detailed information in
Attachment:中国汉语水平考试改进版. The grading technology was also advanced, see
Attachment: HSK主观考试评分技术的突破和飞跃. About the online registration of HSK in
June: see 网上报名通知
ATTENTION!!! registration of HSK REVISED (intermediate) in June: see中国汉语水平考试改进1

中国汉语水平考试改进版.doc

HSK主观考试评分技术的突破和飞跃.doc

网上报名通知_f.doc










Jingjing-N -

And thank you heifeng for your helpful suggestion












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